"You got to know when to hold 'em,
know when to fold 'em,
know when to walk away,
know when to run.
You never count your money,
when you're sittin' at the table.
There'll be time enough for countin',
when the dealing's done."
- Kenny Rogers 'The Gambler'
Daniel L. Bamberg
Daniel@Centrevillepress.com
Here we go again, Alabama. Following last week's fiasco with state troopers, Bob Riley and Victoryland we are in the middle of another heated debate over in-state gambling. Should we legalize it? Should it be up to the voters within the state? While I will certainly leave the first question up to the individual let me state that voting is indeed something we all possess as a right.
Back in the Spring of 2009 I conducted a lengthy investigation into the Sweet Home Alabama Coalition. Nothing really came from it because by the time this story become somewhat irrelevant I was going in too many directions and not able to confirm anything. Two leads had however come from the investigation. On one hand research into one, Milton McGregor (owner of Victoryland) lead me to contact the Russian Embassy. Meanwhile research into one, Governor Bob Riley lead me to look into possible connections with the Mississippi band of Choctaw Indians. While nothing has been proven as of yet, it appears that both leaders of each side within the debate raise enough questions that Alabamians do have cause for concern.
Furthermore there is the financial irresponsibility within both parties. A lot has been suggested pertaining to Milton McGregor's generous donations to his community. Macon County, however continues to average nearly 33% of families below the poverty line. It is not a stretch to assume McGregor does just enough to help his own image but not enough to help his community or state.
Bob Riley on the other hand, has become the epitome of abusive power. Early in his first term the Governor attempted to pass the biggest tax this state had ever seen. Voters did not allow it, and for that reason Riley pitched a fit, stating the results of the vote would result in the release of violent offenders in state prisons. Not only did this reaction not make sense, not only was it verbal terrorism, it was the most immature statement I have ever heard in American politics. So last week Riley decides to use the tax money you and I do pay to send nearly one hundred state troopers to Victoryland as a image of power. These state troopers did nothing actually. Simply put, they sat in a parking lot. Meanwhile who was patrolling our streets?
Again we have been shown a perfect example of Riley's immaturity. This is a man who has no concept of responsibility and has done nothing in his two terms to benefit the state. None, that I can see at least. We hear about all of these jobs he is bringing into the state but those jobs have not even come close to replacing all of the jobs lost during Riley's reign. Yet he seemingly remarks daily about the progress of Alabama's work force. He has taken partial credit for the Vance, Mercedes-Benz plant opening positions to manufacturer the "C-Class". Indeed many jobs will come from this, but what of those who lost their jobs due to massive lay offs at the same plant. They are incapable of being rehired for the "C-Class" jobs, so therefore it looks as if Riley along with Mercedes-Benz have created new jobs. Replacing employment with unemployment and then creating new employment is basically economic hokey pokey. Nothing is gained, nothing is new.
For Alabamians however we may soon become faced with an important decision. Should we or shouldn't we allow gambling to be legalized? If so should casinos in the state be operated by those who abuse a loop hole in our legal system in other words operated illegally but "technically legal?" Bibb County residents please allow me to use an example of how passion can sometimes outweigh logic and abuse the very ideals we are protecting.
Bibb County has been dry since Prohibition. When I was too young to vote the community had an opportunity to vote "wet" but unfortunately the vote allowed the county to remain under prohibition. This kept a solid amount of potential revenue from entering our own community. Meanwhile a Perry County man has been getting richer and richer with each passing year. I have no personal qualm with Chris Johnson. He is a business man and should be respected for that. Yet he has benefited for decades based on the Bibb County community's idea that becoming a "wet county" would somehow cause it to become the devil's playground. It isn't as if Johnson's store is 30 miles away. In fact for most citizens of South Bibb it is just down the road. It is even worse in North Bibb, where citizens are just two shakes of a lambs tail from Jefferson and Tuscaloosa County stores. You could throw a stone from the North Bibb Annex building and hit a liquor store.
Being a dry county hasn't kept drinkers from drinking. It hasn't made alcohol less accessible. The only thing which has come from remaining dry, is a broke county and lack of jobs.
I made an observation during football season in 2009 which infuriated me as a voter within Bibb County. At a BCHS football game I noticed the banners along the fence. These banners were from businesses who paid money to have their companies displayed at the game. The banners were sold to support the football team. One banner simply said "Chris Johnson" and was followed by his phone number. It didn't read Johnson's Store or anything else. It simply said "Chris Johnson". The problem is Chris Johnson has no affiliation to Bibb County High School. His children did not attend BCHS. There is no reason his name should be there. Sure it is nice of him to recognize and support where his money has come from for decades, but it is also equally a slap in the face. Don't get me wrong I don't believe Chris Johnson is personally mocking Bibb Countians. I just take it that way because of the sad irony.
While many other Bibb-area business perhaps had to gather loose change to purchase one of those banners Chris perhaps didn't even blink. Had we voted to abolish the Bibb County prohibition those businesses which scraped to support the football program might not be so pressured. The banners might have even had a cheaper cost, because enough business would allow that. Sadly however, regardless of facts we will not vote for this county to become wet, ever. This state will not vote to legalize gambling. Meanwhile we will continue to do what Bob Riley's administration has been accused of doing. We will condemn these things from our tongues and support them elsewhere with our wallets, thusly damning ourselves to poverty and stupidity and getting no closer to heaven than we were yesterday. That's what's cooking under the hat this week. Thank you for reading.
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ReplyDeleteIf this county would go wet or at least have a fair vote. I thought the last one was fishy. I would consider spending more of my money here. Like YOU said in your column though it will NEVER go wet! They have always kept it dry and a select Oligarchy have kept decent jobs out of here. Thentheyhave the nerve to turn around and complain about a lack of funds! What's wrong with this picture? They did it to themselves! The only chance to maybe promote change is to hit them in the wallet where it hurts and not spend money here. Don't get me wrong there are decent good people who live here and I like to support a select group of businesses. But I hate to know this county is getting tax money from it as long as everything is going to stay this way. I hate to see basic services get affected like police ,fire and most of all schools and kids education but they have done this to themselves.(I don't have kids in school here)I don't worry about if my property value drops anymore because I MYSELF am TOO STUPID and don't have the GUTS to sell out and move and try to live someplace better and be happier. I just feel stuck here and I curse myself everyday for it and regret I din't get education in a field to where I could move just about anywhere and make a decent living. If anything I would like my home value TO drop IF (and I say IF because it will NOT happen) it would lower my property taxes! There isn't anyone in government ANYWHERE that believes in FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY anymore!
ReplyDeleteAS far as your comments on paying a few cent more here or there, I can see a few cents difference on things but before JET-PEP came to Bibb County I know for a fact I have seen gas cost as much as 30 CENTS MORE A GALLON in Bibb Co.than communites within a 50 mile radius. Explain that one to me? humm?
To touch back on the wet/dry issue. FDR (whom I am not really a fan of but) repelled prohibition on April 7, 1933!Apparently people here have NOT gotton the word! Let me explain some things people may not understand here or can't comprehend. If this county was actually to go wet that doesn't mean you would have to buy alcohol and it doesn't mean you would have to sell alcohol in your business if you didn't want to! It does NOT mean public intoxication would be legal or drinking in public would be legal. It would not mean you could drink and drive. It also would NOT mean bars would pop up everywhere. I have a news flash businesses have to have a license to sell alcohol and you can decide who gets a license and can revoke licenses if needed!! HELLO?"??? The wet/dry issue really goes to a deeper issue for me than the alcohol. It's not being able to vote on it and one part of the community affecting the other. It's keeping revenue out of the county as you stated in your column. The Oiligarchy I mentioned earlier keep jobs out of Bibb Co so they can keep the wages very low here and do NOT want it to go wet! So who is really hurting the county? As far as I am concerned I socialize only with the few friends I have here and I work out of the county because I have to and come home and pretty much mind my own business and stay out of everyone's business unless it affects me and I expect people to do me the same.
Again sir good article, I may not agree with you on everything or see eye to eye with you on every issue but very good article. I don't really mind anymore people knowing who I am the people that know me would figure it out but I also don't want people at my doorstep with torches trying to burn me out because I don't agree with them. Then again maybe that would force me to move somewhere else and try and be happier. I believe the old Roy Clark song "Do you believe this town" comes close to describing Bibb Co. I am done here. Good Day Sir
ReplyDeleteWell I guess I lied. I have another point I would like to make. I consider myself to have a Libertarian/Republican point of view on things. I believe in live and let live. You can live your life the way you want to I live my life the way I want to as long as it doesn't interfere with someone else and their rights. I am usually against something like this but since some people are against this county going wet and want to ban a vice like alcohol sales. I'll say if we are going to ban vices lets ban tobacco sales too and smoking in public. Buy your tobacco outside of Bibb Co and smoke in you home or on your land if you want, but ban the sale of it in Bibb Co also. I can just hear the people screaming now and saying that's not the same! Why? I don't like to go out to eat around here (yes spend money to eat around here) and have to breathe in smoke as I don't smoke and can't stand it even if the establishment has a non- smoking section I have to walk through secondhand smoke. But I can't buy beer to carry home to drink. Anybody who smokes in public or buys tobacco here in Bibb Co and is for staying dry is a hypocrite in my opinion! My Lbertarian point of view would actually be against this but since people in Bibb Co want to take the stance on alcohol. I am just turning the argument around on the ones that are tobacco users and want it to stay dry. Lets maybe not even stop there lets look into banning the sale of junk food and sodas here also!! See where I am going here? I already have sinus and breathing problems myself but I have to put up with second hand smoke here and you tell me I can't buy beer here to carry home and drink! That takes nerve!! That to me is as bad as if I drank alcohol and got behind the wheel and endangered your lives and mine! That's what people do they don't care if someone else is denied something if it doesn't affect them. I think I have now made all the points I want to make here and will end it. If I have made you think some here Mr. Bamberg or anyon else who may read this then I have accomplished what I set out to to do.
ReplyDeleteOh and by the way Copernicus called and Bibb County is not the center of the universe! and since I read you like pro wrestling... "If you are not down with that I've got two words for you"
ReplyDeleteI will not contact you anymore. You have my word on that. If you ever want to find out/confirm who I am then start a Countywide wet/dry petition for a vote and I will be the first up there to put my big John Hancock on it with address. Good Day
ReplyDeleteFirstly let me explain that while I do not agree with some of your opinion I certainly support your right to express it. The problem again, is you have failed to include any authorship to it.
ReplyDeleteThe point of not allowing anonymity is for legal sake as well as the desire to keep faceless values at bay. Any concern you may have about repercussions do not gain mine nor any other reader's sympathy.
My column has outed my stance on gun control and I took all the hate mail, hate email, hate phone calls, and NRA non-sense I could stand. I claimed the authorship of my opinion and dealt with the consequences for expressing it in a town which holds tight to its right to bear arms. I don't regret it because I made people think. Their opinion did not change. The goal of changing opinion is futile. Opinion column writing exists as a goal to solidify the opinions of those on both sides and/or to create a new way of thinking about such situations.
My personal suggestion for you is if you want change you need to become a bit more proactive in your suggestions. Citizens of this country have lost the idea of revolution. By revolution I do not mean a war, a riot, a tea party or a radical movement. Every citizen can effect change. The man who seems ineffectual to most can make a difference. Water cooler conversations at work can create change. Conversations at parties or over the phone can effect change. Change is a entity which is passed from one person to the next through intimacy. Whatever is in the power of any citizen, even if that power is as slight as a conversation at work...change should be practiced. The only way to do this however, is to speak and claim your ideals and principals. With that comes a name, a face, an identity.
There are some flaws in your argument, mostly again you are talking about county or municipal revenue as if it is used exclusively to support those we elect. That money is used to support us in one way or another. How that money is used and what we want that money to be used on is the only question. At the end of the day, it still remains a fact that nothing can be done in a community without a stream of revenue.
I can't stand most politicians. I know there are some responsibility issues with most of them. Believe me you want find many greater advocates of holding politicians to their actions than me. At the same time I am a logical person. While tax revenue does in part pay their salaries it isn't exclusively used for that purpose. The biggest problem with your argument (in my estimation) is that they haven't voted themselves a raise. In other words whether this county is down or up on revenue their salaries remain the same. How much you spend within the county doesn't give to nor take away money from "their" pockets. I take it personally because YOU ARE TAKING AWAY MONEY FROM MY POCKET. By you not spending in the county more of my money goes to pay "their" salaries.
It's like this:
If ten people are in an organization which has to pay a 100 fee each week and five people drop out suddenly the remaining members of said organizations are paying twice the amount that they were to keep the organization active.
In this case I pay the same amount whether you spend in county or not . Those salaries are going to be paid whether you spend or not. If you do not spend however more of my money goes to pay their salaries. This is why I take it personally. This is why all citizens should take it personally. In no way was I standing up for the politicians in my column. I was standing up for the citizens of this community.
I am for the abolition of the county prohibition Mr. Anonymous. I agree that there has been a history of corruption in Bibb County tied to that law as well as to the stunt for county growth. This can only be changed by voting in or out the right people. It has nothing to do with the revenue which should already be flowing into the county. It in no way excuses your lack of community support.
You talk about Chris Johnson having a sign on the football field. You don’t take it as a slap or spit in the face that just 24 hours after Jet-Pep opens and begins selling gas in Centreville at comparable prices to surrounding areas around Bibb County that ALL the other stations mysteriously drop all their prices to match. All these stations that have been charging Bibb County citizens as much as 30 cents more for a gallon of gasoline for a very long time, all of the sudden drop their prices? It’s odd that all the BP Kountry Marts are owned by the same person but the prices will be lower in Centreville than in Brent at times and vice versa. We are not talking about a big tax difference if that‘s the case. They have all stayed this way since Jet -Pep opened. I have noticed the BP’s especially trying to push the price beyond the going rate a few times since. How is Jet-Pep was able to come in here and start selling gas at a lower price and has pretty much stayed that way and none of the other stations could do it before? That is not a slap in the face to you?
ReplyDeleteOh, I am sorry. I did not know that I do not have the right to spend my money where I want to. I can’t get around spending money here totally but I can try my best. There are good people here who’s businesses I like to support but Hate Bibb County or the cities get the tax money from it.
Again, I don’t like to spend money here because:
1. There are no good jobs here even before the recession. What I will call “Lumber Lords” have kept the jobs out of here for decades.
2. I can’t buy beer in Bibb County. When I buy beer I may as well do the rest of my grocery shopping and whatever else I need at the same time. There are a lot of little things I like that I can’t find in Bibb County also, not just the beer. Just one Example: No fresh seafood here since Winn Dixie closed. Just Bayou Joe who passes through on Wed.
3. I have no close family here or kids in school here so why support it. I am miserable too so you and whoever else can take joy in that.
Frankly, I don’t care what you think of me for this. You have the right to your opinion just like I have the right to mine. I am not looking for sympathy from anybody. All I want is to be left in peace. I have myself to blame for some of this for continuing to live her and some of the decisions I have made in the past. I take responsibility for that.
Yes, I didn’t like your lackluster support of the 2nd amendment. Although it is true in some situatins if you get surprised/ambushed by someone the gun is not going to necessarily do you any good but that is not 100% of the time. A gun is not the total solution (end all) It is only one tool to be considered in personal protection and recreation. I did take the time to read the whole column rather than stop and start saying your for all out gun control.
I didn’t like your criticism of the TEA party supporters also. While some taxes are a necessary evil, I believe we as citizens are being taxed way too much and taxed more than once at times. Example like buying a used car and paying taxes on it again. The taxes where paid when it was new. That’s just one example. Your criticism of the TEA party supporters protesting being taxed too much unnerved me more than your lackluster support of the 2nd amendment.
I hate I am going back on my word and posting here again. Been kind of enjoyable annoying you. I am done here wasting my time with you. I have got all the points across I care to. I did agree with you on this article though.
I really shouldn't be continuously replying to your anonymous statements. I really wish you would grow up and have the sand to include your name in your comments.
ReplyDeletePlease don't me get started on Jet Pep or the TEA party. To get so concerned with the Jet Pep situation and not understand the economics of the BP gas stations suggests you know very, very little about economics. You certainly have the right to voice your opinion but you should apply some basic logic. Of coarse a company is going to lower their price to survive competition. It doesn't make the cut any less, and while you may despise the company owner you must look at the fact that a company going out of business means people will lose jobs. What has been going on at the local gas stations hasn't been greed as much as survival. Perhaps soon this high school graduate will school all of you in basic junior high school economics.
I am not the guy supporting the suits and ties, the lobbyists, and the greedy sows of the world. Simple (SIMPLE) analysis would explain to you how a county loses money due to people like yourself who are operating with equal amount of GREED as these sows with suits.
You seem so anxious to get out your point that you are completely ignoring anything I have suggested. Everything you are pitching a hissy fit about is a problem. I agree with that. What are you missing is the fact that your mentality is part of the cause and is certainly getting no closer to a solution.
Furthermore if you had read the TEA Party column correctly you would notice that my criticism was not for what they were revolting against but that their revolt was not a revolt at all.
You being a supporter of gun ownership should know this. You don't pull a gun unless you are going to pull the trigger. In the case of the TEA PARTY when you label it a revolution by God you better understand what a revolution is. By God, you better be ready to lose enough to make life uncomfortable. I am all for a revolution Mr. Anonymous. Sign me up on the front lines of that, but a revolution which brings me home to my recliner, satellite television, microwave dinner, and x-box doesn't seem worth my life, my time, or my persuasion.
When someone says the word REVOLUTION I look for the sky to fall. These TEA PARTY moronic were nothing more than cowards with picket signs and a overly biased right wing news channels support to back them. It was like starting a health food diet at McDonald's. Umm. give me a Big Mac hold the lettuce I'm trying to cut back. Give me a break. The day my revolution is broadcast by Rick and Bubba, Shawn Hannity and Rush Limbaugh is the day you'll find my brains splattered over the pavement by my own doing with a suicide note which reads "Note to self: You are a sellout and have all souled out." (misspelling intentional).
The day you invent a way for a county to snap its fingers and create a job without revenue coming from the citizens consider yourself the new paperback savior of all mankind. Perhaps you need to put the beer down and actually read what you are saying and what I am replying because I can't argue logically with a man (or woman) who first won't say his name and secondly keeps saying the same thing without regard to the rebuttal.
Do us all a favor move to Jefferson County where civic pride is sold for a dime and traded for a penny, because that is where your mentality is rested.
I'll admit. I couldn't recall what all you exactly said in the TEA party article. Without going back and being able to read it again.
ReplyDeleteOK OK Your right. I just don't understand economics. Just like Russell BAMBERG tried to explain to us in his letter. Don't know what the relationship is there between you and him? If any. But your right. I'm wrong. I'm a total nut. Your right. I am finished here.
OK, This is crazy of me but is a little too much fun. I shouldn’t be on here again but I thought I need to request this from you. Please educate me and some of the rest of us uneducated knuckle dragging readers on economices. I humbliey ask you to educate me.
ReplyDeleteOk, Criticize me for not spending money in Bibb Co
I just need to be educated in economics and need some questions answered in any future columns of yours. Maybe Russell Bamberg and yourself could teach a class. Anyway here are the questions:
If BP and the rest of the stations in Bibb County couldn’t sell there gas for at least close to the same price as surrounding communities, How can they do it now?
It doesn’t seem like just a promotion. Jet-pep has been open a good while now.
How is it they were able to drop all their prices so dramatically so quick? And stay that way?
Why is it until Jet Pep opened that all the gas prices in the Centreville/Brent area was the same? No even penny competition?
How is it that stations in small communities just like Bibb County surrounding it could sell gas for a comparable price but as soon as you came into Bibb County the price skyrocketed?
I need a Bamberg’s educated insight to this. Please be patient with me and lead me by the hand and explain this to me on a blackboard or with pictures please. Please let me sign up for a class.
Humm Bamberg? Is there any relation there? Oh sorry maybe not but lost my train of thought.
Let me get back on track. Sorry. ( I did like your article by the way in case we forgot)
I need answers. There is a useful four letter word (I will not use it here) and you are full of it on the gas situation at least.
Anyway sorry, Why until Jet-Pep came here Bibb County citizens had to pay more for gas than any surrounding community? PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME?
I like this Banter. We could be the next crossfire. Haha
Maybe if Russell Bamberg would quit complaining about how much it cost them to run a station and sticking it to people and sell it for a COMPARABLE price to other locations they might sell more gas.
I don’t have a problem with putting my name behind my opinion and standing toe to toe with anyone in this county. I do not however want to deal with the select few who lack honor or conviction and would (slash tires, burn house down etc behind my back without facing me.) There are people like that here. Not all but some. Since you have wanted a name so bad I tried to think of a good alias. Hhaahaha Deep throat no. You may be too young to remember the Nixon Watergate thing. Guy Fawkes no like it but don’t want to be potrayed as a terrorist. A founding father? No wouldn’t dare take one of those names. Wish I could. The only thing I could come up with is Bud Johnson the character from the movie Swing Vote. So yes MISTER BAMBERG. I am Bud a lowly little uneducated redneck who needs your education and teaching to help me. You probably know or have a good idea of who I am now but oh well.
I apologize. I see you are on the front lines of a revolution yourself. I can’t say anything else there.
Anyway back to the gas. All a person can ask for is that gas be sold at a comparable price (market value plus a LITTLE profit) I don’t expect them to give it away but don’t want to get ripped off either. Bud Johnson